death sucks, doesn't it?
“you thirsty, dog?” – I wonder how many times sayid said those exact words to someone he was interrogating. That's a nice house he built for Shannon. Almost nice enough to get him laid. Shannon finds the gun in his pants… he, “only carries it because he has someone to protect.”
He’ll get some leg tonight for sure!
Pushed the right button there, sayid.
Back to the tailenders and rafters:
Cindy the Australian stewardess is looking over a ridge thru some trees
New nickname from sawyer for ana lucia – ponce de leon – future guest director darren aronosfky fountain reference?
Sawyer tells them mike “only cares about himself and his kid. And neithers got squat to do with me.”
“Glad you feel that way” mike, eko and jin show up…
jin winces while looking at sawyers wound
“yeah, yeah, chewie, I know … m’arms about to fall off.”
Eko tells ana lucia “I saw them”
Bernard clearly says “what do you mean, you saw them?” - so they’ve never actually seen them?
Cindy asks how many of them were there, and libby asks, “did you see the kids?”
If they’ve never seen them, how does she know some are kids? Do they assume the whispers are the others, and they’ve heard children whispering? Do they assume/know it’s their own dead coming after them?
They move out.
Back to a glowing, post-coital sayid and Shannon (sounds like a law firm)
Sayid pushes that “takecareofmeplease” button again and goes to get Shannon some water. He’s getting some when he gets back…
Wet Walt’s appearance causes the candle to blow out. He talks backwards at her, "esolc er'yeht dna, gnimoc er'yeht"
Fade to LOST
Sayid doesn’t believe her, she must have been dreaming. When he tells Charlie that in front of her, he pushes the jolly red candy like button that he really shouldn’t have pushed. She’s pissed.
Charlie gets the line of the night when Claire comes running over with the baby because she heard screams.
“You heard screams so you woke up the baby and ran towards them?!?”
then he chews her out. Verbally, people.
We flashback to a sweeter Shannon, just so we all care a little more. Teaching ballet to a French pervs daughter, sophie, along with some other kids.
She gets a call… her stepmom. Her dads been in an accident, and he’s at St. Sebastian’s. So he was the adam rutherford in jacks flashback. If st. sebs is their local hospital, there could be some more instances of boone, her and jack crossing paths. Or mr rutherford, whose full face we never really see during the episode. But maybe the tale of the Rutherford/carlyles ends tonight.
Jack brushes by as evil stepmom and Shannon are told by another doctor that her dad stopped breathing at the site of the accident, and they couldn’t resuscitate. Does that jibe with what really happened, and was that rose sitting under the acute care unit sign? Looks like her hair…
Boones mom is a bitch.
Back to the jungle, and we find out that libbys a clinical psychologist. She uses a little of the power of positive thinking to get sawyer back up on his feet and moving.
Rose and hurley are hanging laundry (in a scene aimed at us narcissistic internet dweebs?)
Hurley asks why they’re hanging clothes out to dry instead of using the dryer in the hatch, rose answers, “cause we wouldn’t want to spoil ourselves, would we?”
Hurley says “yeah, heh heh, spoil”
(I wish he’d looked up into the camera like Costner at the end of JFK. “It’s up to you.” One of the best moments in cinema history.)
As he says spoil, cue the spoiled (in more ways than one) Shannon.
Yep. She’s dead. Or was hurley laughing cause she’s not?
(---Little grassy knoll theory aside here: what if some of those leaks were plants? And the one that’s dying in this episode was really cindy all along? They kept the buzz going in the off weeks, and it all built up to this. *disclaimer- I didn’t know until today that everyone knew she was gonna die. I just didn’t read the stuff, between getting married and always trying to avoid spoilers, I only went over to the LFF to play some games once in a while* Then they sent out all the stories the day after about Maggie being great at keeping quiet the whole time what with her contract over and all… and that was all a set up to have a complete surprise when she lives in a couple weeks and is still part of the show? We get punk’d as viewers. Yeah, and the red sox and Theo Epstein are gonna clear things up and get back together too… anyway…)
Back to rose, who still knows Bernard is alive somewhere. “it cant be easy losing the one person you love on the island”
Shannon shoves walts clothes in Vincent’s snout. “Find Walt!”
The dog takes her-directly to boones grave. Why? And why is he whimpering when they get there? precog-dog?
Back on the beach, Locke swaddles Aaron and hands him to Claire, with three unknown survivors milling about in the background. Add a few boars looking on and it could be a lost nativity scene. Claire tells locke about Charlie’s statue of the virgin mary (see! Nativity!), fearing he’s a religious freak.
Locke - “hmmm… how ‘bout that.”
“death sucks, doesn’t it?”
boone shows up at adams wake. (Some serious subtlety there, no?)
he’s wearing more makeup than Shannon here, and I'm not a gay man, but he’s actually prettier then she is, too. Carlyle, out!
“I’m 18, boone."
didn’t she tell hurley she was 20? But des met jack at least three years ago, and jacks wife recovered in two years, married and left him or died and then the thing with his dad happened, all in a year? Weird, something doesn’t add up here.
Back on the other side, eko wants to move inland to try and make better time so sawyer has a chance to survive. Ana lucia is not impressed. “you would risk our lives to help him?”
“it’s the only way I know” (woulda been cooler if he said roll there)
she liked him better when he wasn’t talking. Should be an interesting backstory.
On the beach, locke is putting a piece of a plate or a mirror in his pack. Why? He holds aaron, tells claire he smells good. Better than jack smelled after his tour de stad? Charlie’s a little jealous.
Back in the jungle, and everyone’s looking straight ahead except libby, who’s looking up. Have they been attacked from the sky or the trees before? Sorta odd behavior. Quick shot of Bernard thru the trees like he’s being watched. Sawyers hurting, and anas being a bitch. Mike – “what happened to you people?”
“they came the first night and took 3 of us, two weeks later they took nine more. They’re smart and they’re animals that can be anywhere at anytime. One gun and one bullet won’t stop them.”
“they took my son”
“they took a lot of things”
only one grave next to boones… the fed, or the guy ethan killed? Fed’s probably buried nearer the beach?
Flashback. Shannon’s spelling something out with her alpha crunch. Her place looks an awful lot like the hatch with some nice French doors. she got her internship, and her rent check bounced. She goes to talk to Sabrina the stepmom bitch. No help there.
Locke and Charlie are playing some backgammon. Exactly opposite set ups: 2 white pieces across from 2 black, and 5 across from 5 further up the board. Is this the initial set up for backgammon? It’s been years and years, I don’t remember. Locke rolls two sixes which land weirdly on the pieces. Talking about the baby, Charlie says Claire needs to be more responsible, and locke notes that’s an interesting thing to say for a heroin addict. Charlie corrects(?) him, “Recovering!”
“recovering.”
sawyers about down for the count, mikes cradling him. Awwwww
before he passes out he tells mike “I did leave you behind” (are these sawyers last words? Only if they wanna lose most of the female audience. And the guys that like han solo. But at the end of the episode, as far as we know, he could be as dead as Shannon. That’d be a shocker… my grassy knoll theory comes into play… his whole backstory has pretty much been told, right? Plus now Ana lucia is there to take over as the ‘bad guy’. Yeah, right.)
mike tells sawyer “it’s a good thing I ain’t you”
ana wants to get going, of course. The others want to help sawyer.
“don’t you remember Goodwin?”, she asks. guess we'll meet him soon?
the locke of the tail, eko, can make a stretcher for sawyer.
Shannon tells sayid about finding the bottle.
Eko put together one hell of a stretcher… that said, “ascent with a stretcher” is not the greatest musical movement in the series.
Cindy hands her stick and bag up to libby. She’s standing next to a dark area by the roots of the tree. It’s the last time we see her. (in this episode, at least) they get to the top but she’s gone. “did they take her?” asks libby. (I don’t think I trust her.)
Ana blames eko for the loss, for taking them thru the jungle for sawyer, who she believes is already dead.
The whispers start. The only thing I could make out here was maybe “rose”, or “roz”, repeated a couple of times. is he not the Bernard we think he is?
“RUN!” - Michelle Rodriguez is not my favorite actress.
Flashingback, Sabrina the stepmom bitch gives boone a cushy job near home so he can’t help/be near Shannon in NYC. Boones tries to give Shannon some money, but she doesn’t want help from someone who doesn’t believe in her, the way she’s also trying to find walt on her own without sayid, who doesn’t believe in her.
Back to those two…Uh oh. It’s suddenly raining. It always seems to rain when the others are near. And wet walt apparition is always, well...wet. does it suggest they’re related somehow? Is the water needed to help conduct enough electricity to boost walt’s psychic abilities and make the dead walk? “They’re alive! Alive!”
(is the water from ponce de leons fountain of youth?)
“you’re just gonna leave me” it all boils down to the loss of her dad, boone taking the job, sayid not believing about walt, all the men she depended on letting her down. Now she’s a sympathetic character. Just in time to kick the bucket. Or does she?
Sayid tells her he will never leave her, and he loves her!
Passionate embrace, and…cue the whispers.
Here I think I heard “ana lucia”, “in the eyes” it sounds like Judi dench saying something like “that one had to go first”, and then someone yells, “sawyer!” right before we see Walt. (i don't know if any of what i heard is what was actually said. i doubt it is)
Sayid sees him this time. He’s shushing them (backwards, creepy), so Shannon of course starts yelling, “Walt!” duh.
Sayid’s frozen for a moment, at the shock of seeing walt? He didn’t think he was dead really, did he? He tries to catch up to Shannon and trips. She yells for walt to wait, and BLAM! Gunshot!
Sayid catches up and she turns around. No exit wound on her back, and the wound in front looks more like a slash/stab than a bullet wound. Did an other slash her and ana shot at it? was it locke with one of his knives? (I doubt it, but possibly maybe? i'm sure it was just ana shooting her. that will turn out to be a more interesting story than yet another mystery, "who shot shannon?")
She falls into sayids arms. He looks up to see ana holding out the gun, and she slowly puts it down by her side as everyone else enters and sees what happened. if they were so close by, wouldn't mike have heard her yelling out for walt and run toward her?
Sayid starts to get up, and I don’t wanna think about where he’s gonna put those bamboo shoots. ouch.
***interesting post over at the ABC boards. are we gonna meet this per lundquist or einar ragnarrson soon? is the island off the coast of zanzibar, not in the south pacific as we've been led to believe?
there's some kind of nasty strain of meningococcal disease? did candle have it as a kid? is that how he lost his arm? did locke somehow contract it at some point and that's what led to his dead legs?
article #2342 (weird coincidental? link here), of course... but why is it dated 9/19/05?
does the disease decimate the world, ala captain trips, and the people on the island are the only survivors? maybe everyone died in the plane crash, and some were revived and frozen and others became, well, the others?
here's a link to the Joop press release. Joop?
interesting choice of words, "harvested". has everyone on the island been "harvested"?
or were they brought out of cryostorage to repopulate the world after it was wiped out?
does the life extension project turn some people into the infected, and some just live longer? how long ago did the plane really crash? did the plane really crash? how old is everyone, and are all the flashbacks just implanted memories?
wow, some more questions there...
He’ll get some leg tonight for sure!
Pushed the right button there, sayid.
Back to the tailenders and rafters:
Cindy the Australian stewardess is looking over a ridge thru some trees
New nickname from sawyer for ana lucia – ponce de leon – future guest director darren aronosfky fountain reference?
Sawyer tells them mike “only cares about himself and his kid. And neithers got squat to do with me.”
“Glad you feel that way” mike, eko and jin show up…
jin winces while looking at sawyers wound
“yeah, yeah, chewie, I know … m’arms about to fall off.”
Eko tells ana lucia “I saw them”
Bernard clearly says “what do you mean, you saw them?” - so they’ve never actually seen them?
Cindy asks how many of them were there, and libby asks, “did you see the kids?”
If they’ve never seen them, how does she know some are kids? Do they assume the whispers are the others, and they’ve heard children whispering? Do they assume/know it’s their own dead coming after them?
They move out.
Back to a glowing, post-coital sayid and Shannon (sounds like a law firm)
Sayid pushes that “takecareofmeplease” button again and goes to get Shannon some water. He’s getting some when he gets back…
Wet Walt’s appearance causes the candle to blow out. He talks backwards at her, "esolc er'yeht dna, gnimoc er'yeht"
Fade to LOST
Sayid doesn’t believe her, she must have been dreaming. When he tells Charlie that in front of her, he pushes the jolly red candy like button that he really shouldn’t have pushed. She’s pissed.
Charlie gets the line of the night when Claire comes running over with the baby because she heard screams.
“You heard screams so you woke up the baby and ran towards them?!?”
then he chews her out. Verbally, people.
We flashback to a sweeter Shannon, just so we all care a little more. Teaching ballet to a French pervs daughter, sophie, along with some other kids.
She gets a call… her stepmom. Her dads been in an accident, and he’s at St. Sebastian’s. So he was the adam rutherford in jacks flashback. If st. sebs is their local hospital, there could be some more instances of boone, her and jack crossing paths. Or mr rutherford, whose full face we never really see during the episode. But maybe the tale of the Rutherford/carlyles ends tonight.
Jack brushes by as evil stepmom and Shannon are told by another doctor that her dad stopped breathing at the site of the accident, and they couldn’t resuscitate. Does that jibe with what really happened, and was that rose sitting under the acute care unit sign? Looks like her hair…
Boones mom is a bitch.
Back to the jungle, and we find out that libbys a clinical psychologist. She uses a little of the power of positive thinking to get sawyer back up on his feet and moving.
Rose and hurley are hanging laundry (in a scene aimed at us narcissistic internet dweebs?)
Hurley asks why they’re hanging clothes out to dry instead of using the dryer in the hatch, rose answers, “cause we wouldn’t want to spoil ourselves, would we?”
Hurley says “yeah, heh heh, spoil”
(I wish he’d looked up into the camera like Costner at the end of JFK. “It’s up to you.” One of the best moments in cinema history.)
As he says spoil, cue the spoiled (in more ways than one) Shannon.
Yep. She’s dead. Or was hurley laughing cause she’s not?
(---Little grassy knoll theory aside here: what if some of those leaks were plants? And the one that’s dying in this episode was really cindy all along? They kept the buzz going in the off weeks, and it all built up to this. *disclaimer- I didn’t know until today that everyone knew she was gonna die. I just didn’t read the stuff, between getting married and always trying to avoid spoilers, I only went over to the LFF to play some games once in a while* Then they sent out all the stories the day after about Maggie being great at keeping quiet the whole time what with her contract over and all… and that was all a set up to have a complete surprise when she lives in a couple weeks and is still part of the show? We get punk’d as viewers. Yeah, and the red sox and Theo Epstein are gonna clear things up and get back together too… anyway…)
Back to rose, who still knows Bernard is alive somewhere. “it cant be easy losing the one person you love on the island”
Shannon shoves walts clothes in Vincent’s snout. “Find Walt!”
The dog takes her-directly to boones grave. Why? And why is he whimpering when they get there? precog-dog?
Back on the beach, Locke swaddles Aaron and hands him to Claire, with three unknown survivors milling about in the background. Add a few boars looking on and it could be a lost nativity scene. Claire tells locke about Charlie’s statue of the virgin mary (see! Nativity!), fearing he’s a religious freak.
Locke - “hmmm… how ‘bout that.”
“death sucks, doesn’t it?”
boone shows up at adams wake. (Some serious subtlety there, no?)
he’s wearing more makeup than Shannon here, and I'm not a gay man, but he’s actually prettier then she is, too. Carlyle, out!
“I’m 18, boone."
didn’t she tell hurley she was 20? But des met jack at least three years ago, and jacks wife recovered in two years, married and left him or died and then the thing with his dad happened, all in a year? Weird, something doesn’t add up here.
Back on the other side, eko wants to move inland to try and make better time so sawyer has a chance to survive. Ana lucia is not impressed. “you would risk our lives to help him?”
“it’s the only way I know” (woulda been cooler if he said roll there)
she liked him better when he wasn’t talking. Should be an interesting backstory.
On the beach, locke is putting a piece of a plate or a mirror in his pack. Why? He holds aaron, tells claire he smells good. Better than jack smelled after his tour de stad? Charlie’s a little jealous.
Back in the jungle, and everyone’s looking straight ahead except libby, who’s looking up. Have they been attacked from the sky or the trees before? Sorta odd behavior. Quick shot of Bernard thru the trees like he’s being watched. Sawyers hurting, and anas being a bitch. Mike – “what happened to you people?”
“they came the first night and took 3 of us, two weeks later they took nine more. They’re smart and they’re animals that can be anywhere at anytime. One gun and one bullet won’t stop them.”
“they took my son”
“they took a lot of things”
only one grave next to boones… the fed, or the guy ethan killed? Fed’s probably buried nearer the beach?
Flashback. Shannon’s spelling something out with her alpha crunch. Her place looks an awful lot like the hatch with some nice French doors. she got her internship, and her rent check bounced. She goes to talk to Sabrina the stepmom bitch. No help there.
Locke and Charlie are playing some backgammon. Exactly opposite set ups: 2 white pieces across from 2 black, and 5 across from 5 further up the board. Is this the initial set up for backgammon? It’s been years and years, I don’t remember. Locke rolls two sixes which land weirdly on the pieces. Talking about the baby, Charlie says Claire needs to be more responsible, and locke notes that’s an interesting thing to say for a heroin addict. Charlie corrects(?) him, “Recovering!”
“recovering.”
sawyers about down for the count, mikes cradling him. Awwwww
before he passes out he tells mike “I did leave you behind” (are these sawyers last words? Only if they wanna lose most of the female audience. And the guys that like han solo. But at the end of the episode, as far as we know, he could be as dead as Shannon. That’d be a shocker… my grassy knoll theory comes into play… his whole backstory has pretty much been told, right? Plus now Ana lucia is there to take over as the ‘bad guy’. Yeah, right.)
mike tells sawyer “it’s a good thing I ain’t you”
ana wants to get going, of course. The others want to help sawyer.
“don’t you remember Goodwin?”, she asks. guess we'll meet him soon?
the locke of the tail, eko, can make a stretcher for sawyer.
Shannon tells sayid about finding the bottle.
Eko put together one hell of a stretcher… that said, “ascent with a stretcher” is not the greatest musical movement in the series.
Cindy hands her stick and bag up to libby. She’s standing next to a dark area by the roots of the tree. It’s the last time we see her. (in this episode, at least) they get to the top but she’s gone. “did they take her?” asks libby. (I don’t think I trust her.)
Ana blames eko for the loss, for taking them thru the jungle for sawyer, who she believes is already dead.
The whispers start. The only thing I could make out here was maybe “rose”, or “roz”, repeated a couple of times. is he not the Bernard we think he is?
“RUN!” - Michelle Rodriguez is not my favorite actress.
Flashingback, Sabrina the stepmom bitch gives boone a cushy job near home so he can’t help/be near Shannon in NYC. Boones tries to give Shannon some money, but she doesn’t want help from someone who doesn’t believe in her, the way she’s also trying to find walt on her own without sayid, who doesn’t believe in her.
Back to those two…Uh oh. It’s suddenly raining. It always seems to rain when the others are near. And wet walt apparition is always, well...wet. does it suggest they’re related somehow? Is the water needed to help conduct enough electricity to boost walt’s psychic abilities and make the dead walk? “They’re alive! Alive!”
(is the water from ponce de leons fountain of youth?)
“you’re just gonna leave me” it all boils down to the loss of her dad, boone taking the job, sayid not believing about walt, all the men she depended on letting her down. Now she’s a sympathetic character. Just in time to kick the bucket. Or does she?
Sayid tells her he will never leave her, and he loves her!
Passionate embrace, and…cue the whispers.
Here I think I heard “ana lucia”, “in the eyes” it sounds like Judi dench saying something like “that one had to go first”, and then someone yells, “sawyer!” right before we see Walt. (i don't know if any of what i heard is what was actually said. i doubt it is)
Sayid sees him this time. He’s shushing them (backwards, creepy), so Shannon of course starts yelling, “Walt!” duh.
Sayid’s frozen for a moment, at the shock of seeing walt? He didn’t think he was dead really, did he? He tries to catch up to Shannon and trips. She yells for walt to wait, and BLAM! Gunshot!
Sayid catches up and she turns around. No exit wound on her back, and the wound in front looks more like a slash/stab than a bullet wound. Did an other slash her and ana shot at it? was it locke with one of his knives? (I doubt it, but possibly maybe? i'm sure it was just ana shooting her. that will turn out to be a more interesting story than yet another mystery, "who shot shannon?")
She falls into sayids arms. He looks up to see ana holding out the gun, and she slowly puts it down by her side as everyone else enters and sees what happened. if they were so close by, wouldn't mike have heard her yelling out for walt and run toward her?
Sayid starts to get up, and I don’t wanna think about where he’s gonna put those bamboo shoots. ouch.
***interesting post over at the ABC boards. are we gonna meet this per lundquist or einar ragnarrson soon? is the island off the coast of zanzibar, not in the south pacific as we've been led to believe?
there's some kind of nasty strain of meningococcal disease? did candle have it as a kid? is that how he lost his arm? did locke somehow contract it at some point and that's what led to his dead legs?
article #2342 (weird coincidental? link here), of course... but why is it dated 9/19/05?
does the disease decimate the world, ala captain trips, and the people on the island are the only survivors? maybe everyone died in the plane crash, and some were revived and frozen and others became, well, the others?
here's a link to the Joop press release. Joop?
interesting choice of words, "harvested". has everyone on the island been "harvested"?
or were they brought out of cryostorage to repopulate the world after it was wiped out?
does the life extension project turn some people into the infected, and some just live longer? how long ago did the plane really crash? did the plane really crash? how old is everyone, and are all the flashbacks just implanted memories?
wow, some more questions there...
posted by karmacomedian at 9:51 PM
