Bentham? I don't even know him!

cool episode but mellow and mostly answery instead of raising more questionsy - mostly.

one thing i was iffy on was that Locke's talk with Jack didn't correspond with Jack's recollection of the talk we've heard previously (its all your fault, everyone is going to die if you dont return, etc).
another is the timeline - i'm guessing Locke had to have been in the hospital for a couple days at least after talking to Jack or something, yet the day Locke dies is the first time Jack flew to try and crash? the way they explained it back then he had been flying a lot with his golden ticket, but how many times can u really fly to australia from LA, takes a day(ish) to get there, day to come back - Jack was fully bearded and reading the obit when we saw him flying back a few seasons ago. the funeral couldnt have been more than a couple weeks (at absolute most) from Locke's death - and we know he was found the night of his death cause of the obit - so thats all kind of weird.

either Ben didnt know about Hawking being in LA or didn't know Locke knew about her, either way i thought that was when he decided to kill him (again).
So why did he stay away from the six for three years THEN suddenly decide to contact them? maybe it's cause he JUST learned about Hawking being in LA and knew she would know where the island was - maybe then he figured he didn't need John after all and he could get back in the island/Jacobs good graces if he could get back there? The ring was his in with Sun, and he was right there. But why did Ben kill Locke then go thru all the trouble to get him back on the island? Remember when Michael was trying to kill himself but the island wouldn't let him? Maybe Ben knows the island wouldn't let Locke kill himself, but knows the only way he can return is if Locke is dead... easier to just do it than tell him what has to be done. Although if anyone could convince Locke to "relax, let me kill you," it would be Ben

Widmore was 17 - it was 4 days ago... awesome!! Obviously neither of these guys are to be trusted - it seemed like Abbadon was playing on Locke's insecurities the whole time. "Are you going to stop pretending you don't remember me as the orderly that told you to go on your walkabout after you broke your legs?" heh heh... ok, plenty of questions rasied about Widmore and Ben and Alpert and who leads the others when...

who left with Lapidus? people are saying Sun, but why wouldn't she and Sayid have flashed back with the other 6? Because if everyone (Aaron, Des) doesn't return the results are 'unpredictable'? could be it, and I guess that would make sense.

so was Ben having the runway built on the other island a few seasons ago because he knew this was all going to happen? i think so... sorta.

and um....last season when Walt visited Hurley, they both talk about meeting with Jeremy Bentham - when did Locke reveal his alias to either of them?
guessing this was a goof cause they couldn't call Bentham Locke last season - they'll use the Walt's psychic excuse or something :)

I'm leaning on a lamp post...

I’m gonna start this post in a way I’ve never started a LOST post;
Things I didn’t like:

Jack’s grandfather scene – forced, seemed pointless.
Jack’s bizarre, out-of-place surprise at Sayid and Hurley being on the plane.
Replaying the entire opening scene at the end. Unnecessary.

Those parts made it seem a little like an episode of Heroes. Not a good thing when you're talking about LOST.

Okay, minor gripes aside – another amazing episode.


I dug the parallels while recreating Flight 815; A federal agent escorting a handcuffed prisoner, dead body in a coffin, dude wracked with guilt carrying a letter, guy with a guitar case. Loved the return of Lapidus, “We’re not going to Guam, are we?”
Ben. “How can you read?” “My mother taught me.” The guy just has to lie, even if he’s making a joke.
Biggest question on the flight would be how/why Hurley, Kate and Sayid ended up there (obviously not some random event like the poorly-written Jack was supposing).
Hurley was released from jail like the lawyer said, I’d guess, but who/what convinced him to get on the plane?
Sayid was probably set up by Ben, but why is he being extraordinarily renditioned to Guam?
Kate?
I’m not sure how much time Ben had – did he go to all three again and explain what Hawking told Jack, Sun and Des? Did Hawking? There had to have been guilt involved in some way, Jack will die if you don’t help, Aaron’s real mother is alive on the island (I don’t think so, but it’s what could have convinced Kate maybe), etc. – and it looks like they were definitely told about the ‘re-creation’ aspect – why else would Hurley bring a guitar? Which then makes me wonder if Kate jumped Jack’s bones for a reason… baby in the belly like Claire?
The Hispanic dude in line and in first class has got to end up involved somehow, the federal marshal too?
Flight 316 – John 3:16? The ubiquitous sporting-event only begotten son sacrifice bit right? John Locke…

The Lamp Post – awesome! The way Hawking was talking about the island made it sound like the Atlantis myth... Who was really behind Dharma, and why didn’t Widmore just join up/finance them? Also, if Widmore was an Other, why couldn’t he get back to the island? Seemed like they, at least, could come and go at will - because Hawking always let them know when/where to return to? Or is that just necessary when the island is skipping? The Freighter people got there, sent by Widmore, not Hawking, so how did they know where to go? How did the food drops work? If Widmore has been trying unsuccessfully to get back to the island since he left, does that mean he turned the frozen donkey wheel himself back in the day? Did Hawking help him turn it? Ok, my nose is starting to bleed.

Did Ben kill Penny? Desmond? Little Chuck? If the island isn’t done with Des how is he getting back? Where did Ben, Sayid, Sun, Lapidus and the others end up? Did Lapidus flash down? If so… who’s flying the plane?? (Also, great bit with Hurley buying up all the available tickets, assuming there was gonna be another crash. If the six were so famous, and you’re passing thru first class into coach and see all six of them on the plane, what would you do? I’d be on a later flight for sure!)

It looks like they’re back in the 70’s. Have Jin and the other losties been working for Dharma for the past 3 years? If so, whatever they’ve learned sure woulda come in handy 4 years ago...

fatal nosebleeds...

kinda back? i'm posting randomness like below on facebook now. i'll cut and paste to here too from now on in case anyone ends up at this page.

Montand’s arm!!! It was back in the first season finale (I think?), on the way to the Black Rock, when Danielle told Jack about it:
“The Black Rock is not far. This is where it all began -- where my team got infected -- where Montand lost his arm. We must move quickly.”
“Lost his arm”. Nice way of saying it got ripped off violently (one of the greatest Lost scenes ever.). So the temple is near the Black Rock, and Smokey or something/someone ‘infected’ the rest of the crew when they went in search of the rest of Monty.
That was a nice long look at the smoke monster/cerebus (guarding the entrance to the temple/underworld)!

Poor Charlotte – too much tripping thru time fried her brain. Why is there a stronger effect on people that have spent more time on the island? Something to do with becoming attuned to the island? How much time had Minkowski (the radio operator from the ship last season) spent on the island? Are we gonna see him there in the past… I remember his last flash memory had something to do with a roller coaster – always thought it would be cool to have seen that off-island during someone else’s flashback, but we don’t get those anymore, do we? Dear departed Charlotte loved Geronimo Jackson (I wonder if she was listening to it on the record player in the hatch, or in one of New Otherton’s bungalows), couldn’t have chocolate before dinner - is that how Faraday gets her attention in the past? “Here’s some candy little girl, when you leave this island never come back because you’ll die a nasty headachey death!!”, and her Dad was still on the island when she left. I loved the idea that her mom raised her telling her the island was just a fantasy…island, and she spent her life tracking it down. Man, she musta been psyched to find that Dharma Harness on the polar bear in Tunisia!!

I had a theory that Christian/The Mouth of Jacob was some sort of “shepherd” of death, leading people to the great beyond; Mikey, Claire. I could still be right I guess… but I don’t know what it means. He was pissed that Locke let Ben turn the frozen donkey wheel! Say hello to my son… “Who’s your son?” ha ha ha, great!

And I was off on Sun being evil, but what i don’t quite understand is why she blames Ben for Jin. Widmore i can understand - she knew he was the one that sent the boat that blew up with Jin on it. Maybe she knows they were looking for Ben, but as far as i know she doesn’t know that Ben killed the guy that made the boat detonate - unless Locke/Bentham ended up telling her all that? Still kinda weird, you'd think she'd want to shoot Jack or Kate first, the ones that actually LEFT Jin on the boat.

“If the two of you knew what I've done to keep your and your friends safe the past few years, you'd be thanking me for the rest of your lives!!!!!!!” Ben’s had a lot of good lines, and that was right up there.Was Ben shocked to see Desmond show up? Seemed like Faraday being Hawking’s son was a revelation to him, I thought that dude knew everything!! So did he, by the look on his face. Speaking of Des - Charlotte had always seen Daniel when she was a kid, Alpert had always seen Locke in the 40’s, but Des woke up with a NEW memory from the past - he’s like the time travel wild card; rules do not apply to him. Hawking, the time travel queen of hearts, seems to know this and was in the right place at the right time during the whole engagement ring thing… to steer him in the right direction, because he alone could do something different in the past thus destroying the space/time continuum as we know it?… freaky. Mindblowingly freaky.

So when are everyone on the island? Did it stop back in the 70’s for now and that’ll explain Daniel’s infiltration of Dharma? How long will they be stuck there (if they’re there, that is…)? If they kill Ben as a kid what would happen? Will Miles run into Marvin Candle/Mark Wickmund/Edgar Halliwax/Dad? If Smokey is Cerebus guarding the underworld (remember the map on the blast door), and Hawking does all of her Foucault's Pendulum shit from the bowels of a church – is that the writers telling us who’s good and who’s evil? Or are smokes and Hawking on the same side – course correction for the universe.

Locke kept his word, he didn’t tell Sun about Jin when they met. Did he tell Ben, or is Ben just guessing to play Sun?

so. many. questions. Can you believe there are only about 30 hours of LOST left??